Harry, what you're suggesting will give you the cost of playing JOB with DDB strategy, but not the cost of playing DDB with JOB strategy, which is the example I was using.
One might intuitively think that there would be some symmetry in the cost, but that's not the case. I just now used DRA-VP to see the effect of using 100.76% DW strategy to play 99.73% NSUD and vice versa.
If you play 100.76% DW using NSUD strategy, it costs 0.44%. (payback becomes 100.32%)
If you play 99.73% NSUD using full-pay DW strategy, it costs 0.92%. (payback becomes 98.81%)
So, you clearly can't use the cost in one direction to estimate the cost in the opposite direction.
--Dunbar
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <harry.porter@...> wrote :
Don't sell yourself short, Dunbar ;)
You can get the respective "JB strategy" hand frequencies for DDB simply using a program like WinPoker: Pull up DDB and load the paytable with the corresponding values for JB (all quads are 25, etc). Then simply proceed as you suggest in your first post.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <h_dunbar@...> wrote :
I should have noted that the "easy" calc I outlined can only be done when the 2 games have the same payout categories, which is the case for JOB and BPD. You could not, however, use this method to find the cost of using JOB strategy while playing a DDB game, because DDB has separate payouts for different quad ranks. For a calc like getting the cost of using JOB strategy to play DDB, a dedicated feature like DanP described in OpVP is especially useful.
--Dunbar
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <h_dunbar@...> wrote :
...These kind of calcs are easy to do. You just need a pay table with hand frequencies accurate to 5 significant figures. These kinds of tables can be found in VPW, DRA-VP, and WinPoker, among others. To analyze the question in Bob's column, you'd just start with a table of 9/6 JOB frequencies and change the Quad pay from 25 to 80 and the 2-pair pay from 2 to 1. Then multiply each pay times its corresponding frequency and add up the 10 terms. Your answer should be 99.61%.
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