Not to mention roulette is an easier game for friends to crowd around and watch. Of course you could seek out and empty craps table however not every friend may understand how craps works yet it's very easy to understand when you win or loss when betting a color on roulette. :)
Also when the goal is to place one single large bet roulette is the way to go mathematically. Hopefully someone can chime in and remind me why i came to this conclusion....something to do with the odds of a single bet instead of house edge.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caseydog73" <caseydog73@...> wrote:
>
> Oops! Correction: House advantage on pass line is 1.41%.
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caseydog73" <caseydog73@> wrote:
> >
> > Good questions, Tom!
> >
> > 1 - I didn't notice the AC issue at MSS. You'd think if it was too cool it scare all those Hawaiians away!
> >
> > 2. I end up with only a couple of small charges to room at MSS because of the coupon books, so I don't bother to ask host about it. If it was more than $10, I probably would.
> >
> > 3. Comps are no different, as far as I know, whether you play the 10-7 or other less full-pay machines.
> >
> > 4. We always used to go to the In/Out burger on Tropicana, even though it seemed super crowded and often seemed to be the possible site of a gang-related shooting. But this time, on a busy Saturday night about 9pm, because I was in the parking lot behind Sports book at Bally's, it seemed it would be easier to take Flamingo over to Maryland, and then down a few blocks to the In/Out. And it actually WAS super quick and easy, and there was hardly any wait in line. It will be our new spot for this annual tradition. We totally avoided Strip/I-15 traffic this way.
> >
> > 5. Another great question. I mentioned to our group that red/black has a 5.26% house advantage, vs. about 2.1% for pass line, but they said they'd rather stick with the tradition we'd started with, which is roulette. So there you go.
> >
> > Good luck on your next trip!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@> wrote:
> > >
> > > thanks for sharing - nice report !
> > > Questions...
> > > #1 - Dont you find MSS a cold casino as they crank the AC way up ?
> > > #2 - When you stay there do you charge it all to your room and see a slot
> > > host at the end to pick up all charges ?
> > > #3 - They have a lot of 10/7 double bonus machine - is there less comps for
> > > playing these ?
> > > #4 - I'm familiar with the I/O burger on Tropicana which is always jammed ,
> > > never been to the one on Maryland - are these places all the same ?
> > > #5 - Cant argue with success, but wouldn't you guys be better off betting
> > > the $120 free meal bet as $10/$110 odds on the craps pass line bet ?
> > >
> > > thanks in advance...Tom
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "caseydog73" <caseydog73@>
> > > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 10:33 AM
> > > Subject: [vpFREE] Vegas trip report
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just the facts, mam!
> > > >
> > > > - Arrived Thursday, Sept. 29, 9:35 PM.
> > > >
> > > > - Used kiosk to painlessly, quickly get rental car from Alamo. Rate was
> > > > $90 for four days for "standard," which turned out to be an Impala,
> > > > including all taxes and fees.
> > > >
> > > > - Booked at Bally's four nights, comped on a Total Rewards coupon offer.
> > > > Check-in was prompt and pleasant, and I absolutely love that 1) Bally's
> > > > has no resort fee; and 2) you can opt out of "incidentals" deposit if
> > > > you want - because I never use any of that stuff. Truth is, a friend
> > > > stayed in my room the first 2 nights and I only slept in it the last
> > > > night.
> > > >
> > > > - By 10:45pm I had also checked in at Main Street on offer of four
> > > > nights and $75 free play plus coupon books.
> > > >
> > > > - Met 9 friends for dinner at Triple 7 by 11pm. Food was so-so. Beer was
> > > > tasty.
> > > >
> > > > - At Midnight, we did our traditional "bet our dinner bill on roulette"
> > > > trick, to see if we could make dinner be free -- or end up paying double
> > > > for it. We had done this 6 previous years, and had a record of 4-2.
> > > > Because black always came up, we agreed to go black again this year.
> > > > Only 6 of us got in for $20 each, and viola, up came 10 black on the
> > > > wheel. Woohoo! Nice start to the gambling.
> > > >
> > > > - Played some blackjack at Cal, finished even.
> > > >
> > > > - Moved to slant tops south of craps pit and managed to hit this: dealt
> > > > aces with kicker at 50 cents
> > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/photos/album/2108196630/pic/208850\
> > > > 2482/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=101&count=20&dir=asc> .
> > > >
> > > > - Finished play at 4:45am, up about $750.
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > >
> > > > Friday, Sept. 30
> > > >
> > > > - Played at Main Street Station from 9:30-11:15. Mostly 50-cent DDB or
> > > > TDB. Played through the $75 free and got $60 back.
> > > >
> > > > - At about 11:10 I got this: a diamond royal
> > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/photos/album/2108196630/pic/210672\
> > > > 6071/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=101&count=20&dir=asc> .
> > > >
> > > > -- This is the point when I should have stopped, but oh no, I still had
> > > > almost 3 days left in Vegas!
> > > >
> > > > - Headed back to Strip and treated 6 of my buddies to the buffet at
> > > > Planet Hollywood, Spice Market. We all thought it was one of the best
> > > > buffets we had on the trip. (I was trying to buy good karma.)
> > > >
> > > > - Walked over to Cosmopolitan and most of us did their "lose $100, get
> > > > it in slot play" promotion. First time I'd been in the casino, and it
> > > > was kind of cool. Too bad the pay tables sucked for anything under $5 or
> > > > $10 levels. Out of 8 of us who tried it, only 2 got ahead significantly
> > > > to *not* have to go and get the $100 loaded on their cards. I ended up
> > > > down about $23 in the end, playing 9-5 DDB at 50 cents. Then I switched
> > > > to dollars for a few minutes and managed to hit a couple quads and come
> > > > out $300 ahead on that machine.
> > > >
> > > > - Played dollar 9-5 DDB at Bally's later in the afternoon and held my
> > > > own thanks to 3's with kicker.
> > > >
> > > > - Played craps and 3-card poker at Bill's and just got reamed.
> > > >
> > > > - 9 of us attended the second performance of Elton John's new "Million
> > > > Dollar Piano" gig at Ceasar's Palace. Mezzanine seats were cramped for
> > > > us chunky guys, but the show was a trip, my having grown up in the 70s
> > > > listening to all his hits.
> > > >
> > > > - Played a bit at Ceasar's, and this is when the inevitable slide began.
> > > >
> > > > - Back at Main Street, could not hit quads to save my life and blew
> > > > through a big chunk of change, into the wee hours of Saturday morning.
> > > >
> > > > -- Sat, Oct. 1
> > > >
> > > > - Made $304 in college footbal bets, including one stupid $40 parlay,
> > > > and cashed about $270. I will now hate Georgia Tech forever, as they
> > > > managed to give up 14 points to N.C. State in the final minute to turn a
> > > > $70 profit into a push. Arrggghhhh!
> > > >
> > > > - Lunch Saturday was at the Feast buffet at Green Valley Ranch (finally
> > > > getting to use rental in a big way). I was amazed that the Saturday
> > > > lunch price is a mere $8. Is this normal or a shot-time promo? Didn't
> > > > play at GVR, cause had to deliver friend to airport.
> > > >
> > > > - Played more VP back downtown in afternoon and evening, including on
> > > > old coin droppers at Fremont, and quickly was down to almost nothing. Oh
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > - Drove friends staying at Bally's to the Inn-N-out Burger on Maryland
> > > > at UNLV, where we ran into Bill's performer Cook E. Jarr, who we'd seen
> > > > earlier in the trip.
> > > >
> > > > -- Sun, Oct. 2
> > > >
> > > > - After finally catching up on sleep, I figured I'd do a little bonus
> > > > whoring. Signed up and played at Tuscany for first time. Nice enough
> > > > place, with very perky waitresses - and very attentive waitresses! Only
> > > > got $5 in free slot play.
> > > >
> > > > - Checked out of Main Street a day early.
> > > >
> > > > - As others have reported, the monthly coupons at Casino Royal have
> > > > fallen off -- but that could possibly be because I don't play there much
> > > > anymore. I was kind of shocked to find that I had $131 in food comps
> > > > available there. Is it true that that property will be closing sometime
> > > > soon for some new development?
> > > >
> > > > - Otherwise watched some football and chilled the rest of the day and
> > > > evening.
> > > >
> > > > -- Mon, Oct. 3
> > > >
> > > > - Checked out of Bally's and returned rental car in time for 7:55am
> > > > flight back home.
> > > >
> > > > I lost my trip bankroll, but considering the good times with friends and
> > > > the Elton Show, as well as buffet and GVR and late dinner at In-N-Out, I
> > > > chalk it up as a fun and memorable trip.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck to all.
> > > >
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