For those of you that want to see a chart on 3 different games for bankroll try this page http://wizardofodds.com/videopoker/appendix1.html. Its interesting to see it charted out.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Sai Sai" <gofastnismo@...> wrote:
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> Whats interesting is JOB with a 1/2 percent cash back allowance has a bankroll requirement of $190k. Only with 1.5% allowance does the bankroll go down to $6180. This is with a .1 ROR. Figures compliments of the Wizards site.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
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> > You are correct. .01 would be for a 1 in 10,000. Did you recalculate it for DBL BoPo?
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> > Of course the two negative games would remain infinite.
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> > ~FK
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Lucy" <luckylucyano9@> wrote:
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> > > Isn't 0.01% going to give you the 1 in 10,000 chance of going broke instead of 1 in 1000? I think you mean 0.1% which will give you a smaller bankroll requirement for FPDW, $13,215.
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> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
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> > > > Interesting question Bob.
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> > > > I can't list a recommended bankroll for 9/6 JoB because as it is a negative expectancy game, you are expected to lose whatever you bring to the table. Using the same equations I did for the M progressive would put the BR requirement at infinite. Play enough, you lose, end of story.
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> > > > I believe the reason Judy is having trouble understanding these numbers is because she hasn't crunched the numbers for the games she feels are safer. Let's do that now.
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> > > > Using the Risk of Ruin formula in VPW for quarters, to have a 1 in 1000 RoR we need the following bankrolls for these four popular games:
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> > > > FPDW = $17,620
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> > > > 5-7-T Dbl BoPo = $92,672
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> > > > NSUD = Infinite
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> > > > 9/6 JoB = Infinite
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> > > > Taken in context the $20,000 amount I stated as a BR requirement for M is very reasonable and only slightly more than what you are supposed to have to play quarter Full-Pay Deuces Wild.
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> > > > My guess is that most people are playing everything with less than recommended bankroll and therefore take issue when a reasonable BR requirement is posted for an individual game without a frame of reference handy for comparison. If I had know that this was needed I would have posted it sooner. Sorry. I thought everyone was familiar with RoR calculations.
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> > > > If you own a copy of VPW or OpVP, they both contain RoR calculations. I recommend running your game of choice though, and enter ".01" in the chance of ruin field, and then click on calculate BR requirement.
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> > > > You'll find that $20,000 is not only reasonable it's on the low side.
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> > > > ~FK
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> > > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bartop" <bobbartop@> wrote: And how much of a bankroll would you want to play for a "normal" $1000 royal, say on 9-6 JoB or something like that? About 4 or 5 times the royal? And Frank DID mention something like a 1 in a 1000 risk of ruin. Sounds like Frank is a cautious man. Nothing wrong with that.
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> > > > > But don't let me stop you from putting a negative spin on it.
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