[vpFREE] Re: Is video poker at CA Indian casinos fair?

 


The machines in the Indian casinos I've seen in San Diego County are mostly all IGT. I cannot believe that IGT would cooperate with anybody in creating a dishonest machine. They have too much to lose. However,it is conceivable that someone else might create a "gimmicked" version of the firmware for these machines, say a dishonest guy who knew the firmware architecture of the machine. In a regulated place like Nevada or New Jersey, this kind of chicanery would be quickly caught by state regulators. But since the Indian tribes literally 'regulate themselves," it's possible in theory for widespread cheating to occur.

However, having said that I will say that I believe the machines I have been playing, mostly at Barona and Viejas, are honest. To me they seem the same as the machines I've played in Vegas. And I did get one Royal at Barona in playing around 20,000 - 30,000 hands, which is about what you'd expect.

Roberto-Tenore

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert J. Roth, Jr." <alrothjr@...> wrote:
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> i play at a local indian casino when I visit my home at the lake.  Generally I would play for fun, not investing serious bankroll, or play to explore a different system of play and money management.  My understanding is that they are not regulated and so the old adage of "buyer beware" bears some thought.  (or maybe VP players beware).
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> What I have noticed is that they (the casino) will adjust the pay tables during times of expected high activity, such as a holiday weekend.  Magically, 9/6 JOB one weekend (if you can find one) becomes 7/5 or worse.  The other thing that I noticed is adjustments to the payout on the paytable.  Jacks or better return 1 unit, two pair generally return 2 with threes bring home 3.  The adjustment becomes that both 2 pair and threes only bring home 2 units.  This is something that also gets adjusted during peak action. 
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> One really has to search for a machine that has a decent pay table. 
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> by the way, i have not hit a royal yet.. however I was sitting next to a player that hit a royal on $1 JOB after 15 minutes of play.  Claims he hits them all the time.  That has been the only royal i have seen.
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> --- On Thu, 3/10/11, Natalie Bindner <flyer_gurl_09@...> wrote:
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> From: Natalie Bindner <flyer_gurl_09@...>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Is video poker at CA Indian casinos fair?
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, harrahscasinos@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 1:10 AM
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> On last week's radio show, Frank alluded to Indian Casinos and basically rigged
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> I have spent the last 5 months playing at various Indian casinos all across
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