Poker Poker Poker!: [vpFREE] Re: social security card

Just a little side note! Telling an Indian Casino they
are wrong is not an effective way of resolving a dispute.
I recently had a $4,000 royal at the Fort McDowell
Indian casino near Fountain Hills, AZ. They required
a SS card, or were going to withhold 25% ($1,000).
I did not have my card, or even know for sure where it
was at home. They said I could bring it in the following
morning. A search at home failed to produce my card.
I returned the next morning with over a half a dozen
mortgage, tax, brokerage, interest, etc. statements.
These were from multiple sources and obviously official
documents. I was again denied access to my funds. I was
again turned down after a request for a supervisor. I then
requested the supervisor of that supervisor and finally
someone accepted an annual interest tax statement from
a rental property I owned.
Although denier 3 times, finally someone realized that
I probably could not have produced all of these various
official multi-colored, multi-page documents in less than
12 hours on a computer and/or copying machine. All
documents contained my name, address and SS#. Finally
I received my $4,000, but left shaking my head trying to
understand how anyone could have thought that I might
have produced all of these documents with my name,
address and SS# that night! Telling them they were
wrong or stating some federal form that should replace
their requirement was not the answer. Finally a little
common sense did prevail, but not after a lot of effort and
pleading to a number of people!
It takes a few weeks and a few hours of time to get a
duplicate social security card, but I now have one in my
possession. I am prepared to used whatever method most
efficient in the future. Having found my name, address
and phone number on so many pieces of public information
did not removed identity theft concerned, but I now realize
that a casino might not my biggest problem source in this
area.

Bob

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:
>
> <<Potowatami in Milwaukee, WI, continues to require a SS card for
all W2-> G events. If you don't carry yours, you must fill out a W-9
and they withhold 35% for federal and state taxes.)
>
> They are wrong. Once you fill out the W-9 they shouldn't withhold
federal
> tax - I'm not sure about state tax but probably not that either.
But some
> of these Indian casinos just aren't up to snuff on federal
regulations. If
> you play there a lot, you might want to speak to higher
management!!
> Otherwise, arguing after you get a W-2G might just be too time-
consuming.
>
> Susan wrote: <<Are you saying I can leave that card at home and
still
> collect the winnings
> in vegas?>>
>
> The above situation is a very rare one, usually only in small
Indian
> casinos. In Vegas, you won't have this hassle. Just tell them
your #
> orally (or write it on a piece of paper and give it to them) and
there won't
> be a problem. Sometimes you might be given a W-9 form you need to
fill out
> and sign, but usually you won't even be given that.
>
> ________________
> Jean $¢ott
> The much-expanded new edition of my tax book,
> including a new chapter on poker, is now available
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>