Ok, once again, I have to ask, instead of criticizing one person's
experience, please kindly state for the over 1800 members here, how to
play with and against Aces perfectly, 100% of the time, and to throw
things into the mix, both knowing what the other person has, and not
knowing what the other person has.
If anyone else wants to take a look at these four situations, and
write a detailed analysis, feel free to do so.
Thanks,
Mike, Co-Owner
--- In POKERHOLICS@
>
> You have no idea how to play AA properly. You are lost in a world of
> a few lucky times you beat AA. We all get lucky sometimes, but that
> does not make that an "A" poker game.
>
> Why dont you just stop this nonsense now so you dont mislead any new
> players.
>
> Ask all the pros and as a basic rule, (not ever time) you play AA
> hard.
>
> You will see in the long run you are wrong.
>
> You have no idea.
>
> --- In POKERHOLICS@
> <rowdyrebelchic@
> >
> > very nice post indeed, keep up the good work!
> >
> > --- In POKERHOLICS@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's quite funny that my simple post about my success against
> > pocket
> > > aces has earned me more cash than my success with them has a few
> > > people stating with all certainty that I play aces wrong. This
> > stated,
> > > of course, without any experience at the table against me when I
> > hold
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Let's delve a little deeper...
> > >
> > > First, Preflop, my bets, raises and calls are very rarely based
> on
> > the
> > > two cards I have in the hole. My position, stack size comparisons,
> > > playing styles and history of the actions of my opponents, the
> > general
> > > flow of the game at the time and on occasion, whether or not I
> will
> > > need to leave to take a piss will affect the amount I wager.
> > >
> > > Second, I never said nor will I ever be able to win against aces
> > > everytime I face them. But I do face other people with aces far
> > more
> > > often than holding them myself and in those instances that I win
> > the
> > > pot, which is generally quite big, my opponent made the "mistake"
> > > against me. But the truth is the board turned out to be more
> > > favorable to me than to them.
> > >
> > > To say you win more with aces, sounds like you have them two or
> > three
> > > times in a hour, and when you raise it to 20+ you get one caller
> > who
> > > appearently is never afraid of the flopped board and calls all
> your
> > > heavy bets. Seems pretty obsurd.
> > >
> > > It also sounds as if, regardless of what flops, when you hold
> aces,
> > > you can't fold them. If that's so, I'll take 10,6 against you
> > quite a
> > > few times.
> > >
> > > A person can play aces anyway they see fit.
> > >
> > > A huge, overthetop, 10 times the big blind, preflop raise, just
> > might
> > > have one person out of the 5 limpers think, "no way does he have
> > > pocket aces" and still call you..lol.
> > >
> > > Most of the time, everyone will fold and you win the 12 buck pot
> > minus
> > > the 3 buck or so rake..congrats, you played aces "right".
> > >
> > > I want more than one person in the pot with me, so I would make a
> > > raise just high enough to say I got something good, but not so
> high
> > > that a couple of limpers holding qj off or a9 suited won't call.
> > >
> > > Aces make more against 3 opponents when they "hit" than one. And
> > yes,
> > > I will fold aces when a dangerous board shows up.
> > >
> > > Two days ago I hit another big pot against aces, this time on the
> > > $2/$5 no limit. 4 limpers at 5 bucks, I hold qj of hearts.
> > >
> > > The flow of this table showed that the average preflop raise was
> > way
> > > overthetop-- between 30 and 40 bucks. It was full of deep pocket
> > > businessmen and 3 young guns.
> > >
> > > I am one off the button and raise it to 30, planning on having
> > > everyone fold. The small blind reraises me to 60. Was that the
> > right
> > > thing to do? (he has aces btw *wink)
> > >
> > > Everyone folds to me. I have 650 in front of me, the small blind -
> a
> > > young gun- has 450 or so left. he will be first to act the entire
> > hand
> > > so I can make judgements off his actions.
> > >
> > > I call the raise. Flop comes Kc 10h 7h. That gives me a straight
> > draw
> > > and flush draw.
> > >
> > > At this point I have yet to put him on aces but ak or pocket 10's
> > were
> > > likely, so I could be up against top pair or a set. The size of
> his
> > > bet if he bets may give me a clue.
> > >
> > > He bets 60.. about half the pot. Ok, he's feeling strong and may
> > have
> > > a set and has bet just shy of 1/2 the pot. If he had top pair he
> > would
> > > be vunerable and I think he would have bet at least the size of
> > the pot.
> > >
> > > If I hit either of my draws and he does have a set, I figured he
> > > should pay me off-- I call 60--was that the right thing to do?
> > >
> > > The turn brings a 9c- and I have my straight. He bets 120. He
> might
> > > truly be unafraid of the board and if he has that set and I call I
> > > will need to escape the board pairing giving him a full house.
> > >
> > > I wait a bit then I call but even with the wait I think I called
> > too
> > > fast because..
> > >
> > > the river is a 6 hearts, I have my flush and he waits a minute or
> 2
> > > then checks.
> > >
> > > This time I wait even longer, and evenually bet about what I think
> > > half his stack is--175. I was hoping for an all in from him, but
> > > instead he just called and flipped up pockets aces.
> > >
> > > Do I need to point out that when a person finds themselves in a
> pot
> > > preflop against aces they may not know that they're up against
> > aces? rofl.
> > >
> > > Peace
> > >
> > > btw I have to pay 425 in rent :p
> > >
> >
>
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