Many thanks for all the valuable input, both here and in private e-mails. Some questions I still have:
1. Would it be correct to say that Double Joker games, which used to be popular in A.C., are not common any more and, if found, are the lower EV variety?
2. Howard said: "Joker two pair in the 20-10-6-5 (99.92%) version is still a somewhat common game and often the highest payback game in casinos outside of Nevada."
I looked up this game on Wizardofodds site (http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/joker-poker/two-pair-or-better/ and realized that it is not at all like the AC two-pair game which has 5-of-a-kind as the top jackpot. I didn't know there were 2 kinds of 2-pair games. Is this the schedule being referred to– 1,2,5,6,10,30,50,50,100, 1000/5000? If so that means that I have to re-write that paragraph about 2-pair on page 114, telling about the two different kinds 2-pair games. In fact, this one seems available enough (on vpFREE2 at least) that I think I should delete Super-pay JW (4700 royal, which is practically extinct) on the Joker Wild chart (page 115) and put this schedule in its place. Do you think that would be the best thing to do?????
I have decided to delete the sections on All American and Pick "Em since this book section is for "major" games, which neither of these are any more.
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 8:07 AM
Subject: [SPAM]Re: [vpFREE] Re: Joker Games
Dear: Queen of Comps
"Pick em" is still used for Bally products. IGT calls this game "Pick a Pair" and there are other games than the standard 99.95% in formats such as deuces wild, double bonus, etc.
l is still a somewhat common game and often the highest payback game in casinos outside of Nevada. (When Frugal VP first came out, I contacted Mr. Wolf to have him fix a bug which caused this game to show the wrong EV.)
When Bob dancer and Liam daily asked a number of years ago whether another joker game could use their strategy cards, I suggested this game and they did come out with a strategy card for it.
I have never been to Atlantic City (I live in the Chicago Area and met you briefly at one of the shows in Rosemont. My mom used to work for Bally but not the slot machine division.) but I think 9-5 and 8-6 Double Joker are pretty much dead and have a very difficult strategy.
Howard W. Stern
On Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:21 AM, "lfcmja@verizon.net [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Mohegan Sun does in fact have the games that Haaljo posted. Don't know if its relevant to your book but the Sun does not give players any direct comp points ( dollars) for play on these games.
AC used to have 9/5 Dbl.Joker . Now they offer 8/5 .
Ballys AC used to offer 8/6/4 Dbl. Joker which is a 99% game. Haven't played there in a long time so I'm not sure if they still offer it.
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