[vpFREE] Re: What Would It Take???

 

Most cell phones are now video cameras, I think the wizard specifically used a cell phone to record his video. Take a look at the wizard's page again, he's specifically teaching anyone how to do it:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/jackpot-party/

Keep in mind, video poker is just another slot. The only difference is the specification of a random and fair shuffle of a 52 card deck.

As for 99%, why not go for 99.7%, that's 3SD. Approximately you'd need 10 cycles minimum, then 3SD is 10+/-9.5 . 10 cycles of 52 cards is 520 cards whereas 10 cycles of royals is over 400,000 hands, over 2 million cards. Obviously shuffle tracking the cards and not the end results is the way to go. The end results are just a derivative of the process.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:
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> OK that would work, wow great idea.
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> Are we sure that's legal to take video in a casino?
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> And two for people that don't have video cameras I'll still need to whip up a paper option, but thanks again.
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> Please someone comment on the legalities of this, I do not know the current laws.
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> Oh and we still need to answer the question of, "How many hands?". I'm shooting for 99% accuracy, if that's attainable. It may not be.
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> ~FK
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@> wrote:
> > > OK I love this idea. That would probably get us very sure very fast, but it would be laboriously tedious. You'd be playing at a snails pace and writing every single hand.
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> > Record it to video like the wizard did with jackpot-party. Analyze the results later. Also the video is your raw data, available for independent analysis by anyone.
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> > > I have a question for everyone.
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> > > I think this would work, but how many would want to use it and would everyone prefer a less book keeping intensive method that tracked fewer things and allowed for more fluid play.
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> > > I'm not making this for me to use, so your opinions are more important than what I think.
> > >
> > > ~FK
> > >
> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@> wrote:
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> > > > Frank asked:
> > > > > 1. What should one record and how?
> > > > > 2. What is a large enough sample? (And how to parse the
> > > > > sample.)
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> > > > Record each type of card for each "play", for example I was dealt AdAc3h4h5h and drew 2hAhAs, that's 8 cards. Record 52 cards and you have a cycle. Record 260 cards and you have 5 cycles, which is statistically significant. At this point you are looking to verify (or disprove) that the average cycle of each card is 52. By 25 cycles you should have a fairly solid answer on whether or not any cards are missing from the deck. The next step is to look for correlation (stickyness or shuffle tracking) between cards. If the shuffle is truly random, the average cycle of each card should be 52 and there should be no correlation between cards, so for example the aces shouldn't be clumped together, or spread apart, anymore than would be predicted by probability theory.
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> > > > http://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/jackpot-party/
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