I love your stories, Mickey, but sometimes their accuracy sucks. That play, unless it got up again when you said it did, which is extremely unlikely because I played it a lot after the time it got way up, was in the summer and fall of 2000. I played it heavily, including on election night. It (or, more accurately, "they," since there were 2 meters, which, after going months without either of them hitting, both got hit on the same day, the first for $83,000 and change by the person you described early in the morning, and the second, the backup meter, for $69,000 and change, in the afternoon) got hit within a few weeks after that. There are some interesting, and expensive, strategy changes at those numbers, such as keeping 2 aces in sequence over a full house. The cycle with that strategy is around 260,000 hands. I was surprised at the lack of professional play, also. With the royal also progressive, it was frequently a 4% advantage and more. I later hit it for around $22,000, possibly around the time you described. Elliott Shapiro hit it in the first 4 cards dealt for around $46,000, probably a few years later. The Circus Circus still has a progressive bank, but the meter movement is tiny.
It was great to hear you on Frank's show last Thursday. I was expecting you to sound like a raving lunatic, so I was surprised at how normal you sounded!
----- mickeycrimm <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jason Pawloski <jpawloski@...> wrote:
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> > BTW - if my memory serves, you're more likely to get a royal than >an ACE$. Which is part of the reason why I was never a fan of this game.
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> Besides the 4 A-C-E-S having to be in order, there can be no gap. Which means that the 4 A-C-E-S have to be in either the first four positions or the four last positions. There are 120 positions that 4 Aces can be in, 5X4X3X2X1 = 120. Only 2 positions will will yield the big payout. So the frequency for making 4 A-C-E-S, without strategy adjustments, is 5,106.325 X 60 = 306,379.5. With royal odds at 40,234.18, you'll make about 7.6 royals per 4 A-C-E-S.
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> And this reminds me of a Laughlin story. The Edgewater had a several machine bank of dollar 7/5 A-C-E-S Bonus Poker. There was a big fat meter on the 4 A-C-E-S, I don't remember exactly how strong it was, but it was really strong. In the spring of 2002, that meter got really high, above $80,000. But the play was way to big for my bankroll. I figured that the bank would get monopolized by a big bankrolled Vegas team but it never happened.
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> I remember discussing the play with a friend of mine, "Ray." Ray had come to Laughlin as a substitute school teacher, but wound up dealing blakjack at the Golden Nugget. And then he wound up getting quite an education in advantage play. And then he got a 6 figure inheritance. He was the biggest bankrolled player on the river that I knew. He was also wrapped up tight. No leaks.
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> Ray wound up cutting a deal with a friend/collaborator to do a $20,000 saver on the 7/5 A-C-E-S play. They were both busy on other plays on the river. So they decided to shoot at the play in their spare time, but they didn't necessarily have to be playing at the same time. They used the points on the card to verify to each other how many hands they each had run.
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> Ray's friend eventually hit the 4 A-C-E-S when the meter was up around $110,000.
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