[vpFREE] Re: Check out Casino smoke ruling / Just pass the ban

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "pokegimp" <wincerwj@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mroejacks" <rgmustain@> wrote:
> >
> > The big thing you are missing here is that places of business DO
> NOT
> > have the freedom to whatever they please. There are hordes of
> > regulations they must adhere to. A smoking regulation is no
> different
> > than many of the health regulations businesses must already
follow.
> > They are put in place for the public good.
> >
>
> Good point. I think that we should follow the example of another
> regulation. We've all seen the warnings on menus about the dangers
> of undercooked food and that asking for food prepared in this way
is
> being done at your own risk. So we should mandate placing a sign
at
> the entrance of all places that allow smoking (since admittedly not
> everyone can figure this out on their own).
>
> "This is a SMOKING establishment. By entering you are implicitly
> giving your consent to be surrounded by smoke and the dangers
> inherent therein. If you do not consent to this, DO NOT ENTER!"
> (and go to a non-smoking establishment)
>
> Certainly the food warning made more sense than banning raw bars,
> rare steaks, sunny-side-up eggs, etc... Instead of making the
> decision for people, you give them the power to decide if they want
> to risk their health.

This might work if there were an equal number of establishments that
provided the same exact services for both smokers and non-smokers. Of
course, if this were done the establishments that allowed smoking
would only be marketing to 20-30% of the total population. Not sure
too many restuarants would pick the smoking group. For casinos, the
choice doesn't really exist in NV and even with a 50-50 ratio none of
the casinos appear to be interested in the non-smoking crowd.

>
> >
> > Please explain how a smokers health is put a risk for abstaining
in
> a
> > non-smoking casino. Oh, and be sure to add just how the employees
> are
> > put at risk too.
> >
>
> Hmmm...scratching my head on this one. I don't recall ever saying
or
> implying that being in a non-smoking environment is dangerous to
> anyone's health. If you quote the exact section of my posts that
led
> you to mistakenly infer this, I'll be happy to clarify what I
> actually meant.

You stated:

"I assure you that if a non-smoking casino all of a sudden put in a
10% play on dollars, smokers would go there. They would realize that
the sacrifice they are making to take part in this play is that they
can't smoke."

If a non-smoker goes into a smoking casino and thereby is forced to
breathe smoke, their health IS put at risk. If smokers go into a non-
smoking casino they are NOT put at any health risk. Hence, the
ONLY "sacrifice" they are making impacts them and them alone.

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