Hi Harry,
You make a few wrong statements (not a flame, just a fact).
Class III gaming with the Seminoles in Fla is now a fact. It will
take some time to remove all the old class II machines and install
Class III. So patrons need to look to see if there is a Bingo card on
the top glass.
Class II machines don't actually predetermine wins; technically you
enter a Bingo game when you press "deal". When the Bingo game
finishes (microseconds, normally) your win or loss is determined. You
are not playing against the house on those games, you are playing
against everyone else in the casino. However, cards chosen for the
draw are only for show and will not affect the outcome.
So look for those machines without Bingo cards at Seminoles. Then the
paytable tells the outcome exactly like they do in NV. And, oh yes.
The Fla racinos are commercial machines that perform like NV and
Class III Seminoles machines.
Hope this helps.
B
At 08:21 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
>lfcmja2000 wrote:
> > My mom who resides in Fla. told me that as of this past Monday, the
> > Hard Rock Hollywood has Class III machines. I knew that this was
> > coming and was wondering from those in the know if the Hard Rock
> > Tampa, and the Seminole Casino Coconut Creek also now have Clas III
> > machines and what VP if any did they have ie, paytables ? When they
> > had Class II machines the HR Hollywood had about a dozen 9/6 Jacks.
>
>Cardfather, who makes an occasional appearance in these parts and has
>intimate familiarity with gaming in FL, wrote a couple of years ago
>that HR Hollywood had exclusively Class II gaming.
>
>However, perhaps your mother has the inside scoop re current changes.
> But I'd be cognizant of the fact that this casino operates under
>tribal gaming and isn't subject to any regulatory oversight, lending
>less confidence re any gaming assumptions in my book.
>
>To my knowledge, all Class II machines operate under a mechanism in
>which any win is predetermined when you press "Deal", but before any
>cards are selected for the Deal. Because for any resulting deal you
>have control over the cards held and can "defeat" an intended winning
>hand that yields the determined payout, it's necessary for a secondary
>win option to be present (seen in various forms -- a genie that
>revised your hold after an alternate losing hand is revealed, a "match
>card bonus" that supplements any ending result, etc.) Further, it's
>my understanding that Class II machines typically carry a "for
>entertainment purposes only" disclaimer.
>
>I might be willing to rely upon the presence or absence of a secondary
>win option to differentiate between these two machine classes. But,
>then again, it's more likely I wouldn't.
>
>- Harry
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