[POKERHOLICS - Also at Myspace!!] Re: Pocket Aces

very nice post indeed, keep up the good work!

--- In POKERHOLICS@yahoogroups.com, "xenobias1" <xenobias1@...>
wrote:
>
>
> It's quite funny that my simple post about my success against
pocket
> aces has earned me more cash than my success with them has a few
> people stating with all certainty that I play aces wrong. This
stated,
> of course, without any experience at the table against me when I
hold
> them.
>
> Let's delve a little deeper...
>
> First, Preflop, my bets, raises and calls are very rarely based on
the
> two cards I have in the hole. My position, stack size comparisons,
> playing styles and history of the actions of my opponents, the
general
> flow of the game at the time and on occasion, whether or not I will
> need to leave to take a piss will affect the amount I wager.
>
> Second, I never said nor will I ever be able to win against aces
> everytime I face them. But I do face other people with aces far
more
> often than holding them myself and in those instances that I win
the
> pot, which is generally quite big, my opponent made the "mistake"
> against me. But the truth is the board turned out to be more
> favorable to me than to them.
>
> To say you win more with aces, sounds like you have them two or
three
> times in a hour, and when you raise it to 20+ you get one caller
who
> appearently is never afraid of the flopped board and calls all your
> heavy bets. Seems pretty obsurd.
>
> It also sounds as if, regardless of what flops, when you hold aces,
> you can't fold them. If that's so, I'll take 10,6 against you
quite a
> few times.
>
> A person can play aces anyway they see fit.
>
> A huge, overthetop, 10 times the big blind, preflop raise, just
might
> have one person out of the 5 limpers think, "no way does he have
> pocket aces" and still call you..lol.
>
> Most of the time, everyone will fold and you win the 12 buck pot
minus
> the 3 buck or so rake..congrats, you played aces "right".
>
> I want more than one person in the pot with me, so I would make a
> raise just high enough to say I got something good, but not so high
> that a couple of limpers holding qj off or a9 suited won't call.
>
> Aces make more against 3 opponents when they "hit" than one. And
yes,
> I will fold aces when a dangerous board shows up.
>
> Two days ago I hit another big pot against aces, this time on the
> $2/$5 no limit. 4 limpers at 5 bucks, I hold qj of hearts.
>
> The flow of this table showed that the average preflop raise was
way
> overthetop-- between 30 and 40 bucks. It was full of deep pocket
> businessmen and 3 young guns.
>
> I am one off the button and raise it to 30, planning on having
> everyone fold. The small blind reraises me to 60. Was that the
right
> thing to do? (he has aces btw *wink)
>
> Everyone folds to me. I have 650 in front of me, the small blind -a
> young gun- has 450 or so left. he will be first to act the entire
hand
> so I can make judgements off his actions.
>
> I call the raise. Flop comes Kc 10h 7h. That gives me a straight
draw
> and flush draw.
>
> At this point I have yet to put him on aces but ak or pocket 10's
were
> likely, so I could be up against top pair or a set. The size of his
> bet if he bets may give me a clue.
>
> He bets 60.. about half the pot. Ok, he's feeling strong and may
have
> a set and has bet just shy of 1/2 the pot. If he had top pair he
would
> be vunerable and I think he would have bet at least the size of
the pot.
>
> If I hit either of my draws and he does have a set, I figured he
> should pay me off-- I call 60--was that the right thing to do?
>
> The turn brings a 9c- and I have my straight. He bets 120. He might
> truly be unafraid of the board and if he has that set and I call I
> will need to escape the board pairing giving him a full house.
>
> I wait a bit then I call but even with the wait I think I called
too
> fast because..
>
> the river is a 6 hearts, I have my flush and he waits a minute or 2
> then checks.
>
> This time I wait even longer, and evenually bet about what I think
> half his stack is--175. I was hoping for an all in from him, but
> instead he just called and flipped up pockets aces.
>
> Do I need to point out that when a person finds themselves in a pot
> preflop against aces they may not know that they're up against
aces? rofl.
>
> Peace
>
> btw I have to pay 425 in rent :p
>

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