I am not sure what you mean by "conventional wisdom" but current Nevada statutes concerning the manufacturing of machines says ONLY that the machine must be legal in the destination where it is shipped. (There is nothing about a random deal being a requirement. The regulations were changed many years ago when Indian casino gaming became popular and IGT wanted to be in on the business.)
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:48:52 -0400
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: A very good article about the Oregon Video Poker situation
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> I read the first two posts in this thread + the article hyperlinked in the
> first post. What follows is an email that I sent by BCC copies to several
> VP acquaintances and the friends who accompanied me on last fall's drive
> along the Oregon coast. Please comment if you have knowledge, whether
> based on personal experience or hearsay. Thanks.
>
> The GMan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I'm not surprised to learn that a state lottery misleads players.
>
> (1) My first follow up question would be whether the "wrong" advice
> actually leads the player to the least-bad predetermined result. My
> previous understanding is/was that state-sanctioned VP in Oregon pays an
> overall (bad) return that is predetermined as soon as the machine deals the
> initial hand. E.g., in the hand described by the article, the player may
> have been predestined to end up with two pair, and that result required
> either ignoring his straight draw or drawing one of the bizarre wild cards
> that I encountered at a Washington tribal casino. [Discard dealt quads and,
> one way or another, I would redraw quads.]
>
> (2) My second follow up question would be whether VP at Oregon *tribal *casinos
> is gaffed in the same way as Oregon Lottery machines.
>
> When I and two friends drove the gorgeous Oregon coast last fall, I was
> intrigued by the possibility of getting room and board for (math EV) free
> at a tribal casino on or near the coast. I still am intrigued, but only if
> tribal casino machines are governed by RNGs. The linked article raises a
> bright caution flag.
>
> FWIW, conventional wisdom in the VP community says that machines
> manufactured by any company licensed in Nevada must deal cards randomly.
> Williams Gaming (WMS) is the second-most prominent of those companies. But
> I learned recently (when inquiring about a game called "Dream Card" that is
> manufactured by the most-prominent Nevada-license VP machine manufacturer)
> that writing software that always recommends the best play for any initial
> hand in every game that a multi-game machine offers is a difficult task
> from which VP machine manufacturers obtained an exemption in early
> iterations of Dream Card. That MAY explain the weird experience of the
> article's protagonist in Oregon. Or, maybe the Oregon Lottery actually has
> been knowingly perpetrated a fraud to increase its profits.
>
> Comments welcomed.
>
> The GMan
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