I'm shooting blood from my eyes after reading this.
From: Nordo123@aol.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 10:54 am
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Bob Dancer's LVA - 19 AUG 2014
I am now ready to tell you the cost of playing Queens or better pays 2 instead of Jacks or better pays 2 DDS. For this discussion order counts because even though the final hand may be the same without order counting in one case you may have doubled and the other case you may not have. For example JJ234 returns 2 bets and J234J returns only 1 so your loss in playing Queens instead of Jacks DDS are 2 bets and 1 bet respectavely. Now instead of 2598960 final hands there are 2598960 times 5! = 311875200 final hands with order counting. Instead of 84480 hands of exactly 1 pair of Jacks there are 84480 times 5! = 10137600 final hands of exactly 1 pair of Jacks. There are (4C2 times 12C2 times 16 times 4!) = 152064 ways that your first 4 cards are exactly 1 pair of Jacks, (you are now doubling your bet) and 40 cards you can catch (any card of the other 10 ranks not in your 1st 4 cards) = 6082560 final hands of 1 pair of jacks where you have a pair of jacks in your first 4 cards. Th ere are (12C4 times 4 times 4!) = 47520 ways that your first 4 cards are a 4 flush that contains a Jack. There are ((4 to the power of 4) times 4! times 3) = 18432 ways that your first 4 cards are KQJ10 or QJ(10)9 or J(10)98. If you subtract out the 288 ways that your first 4 cards are KQJ10 suited or QJ(10)9 suited or J(10)98 suited that leaves (47520+18432-288) = 65664 ways that your first 4 cards are an open ended straight or a 4 flush that contains a Jack, (you are now doubling your bet) and 3 other Jacks you can catch = 196992 final hands of 1 pair of jacks starting with a 4 card opened straight or 4 flush that contains a jack. Combining the 2 cases there are (6082560+196992) = 6279552 ways of ending up with a pair of jacks where you have doubled your original bet for a loss of (6279552 times 2) = 12559104 original bets over "Jacks" DDS. That leaves (10137600-6279552) = 3858048 final hands of exactly 1 pair of jacks that were not doubled. You lose an original bet over " Jacks" DDS in those cases. Your total loss over "Jacks" DDS is therefore (12559104+3858048) = 16417152 original bets. The loss by playing "Queens" DDS over "Jacks" DDS is therefore 16417152/311875200 = 0.05264 or 5.264%. Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------------ Posted by: nordo123@aol.com ------------------------------------ vpFREE Links: http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/V/Links.htm ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: vpFREE-digest@yahoogroups.com vpFREE-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: vpFREE-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
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