RWS wrote: Wouldn't it just be better if people stopped trying to bargain with casinos (card counters et al. ) and just accept the fact that casinos do not want you to win? . . .
No, it would not be better
I do accept that casinos do not want us (as a group) to win. I do accept that they hire experts to close loopholes that I might exploit. I do accept that if you win too much the casino will remove either the opportunity or remove you.
However, I absolutely do NOT accept that trying to bargain with a casino is a bad idea. There are a LOT of circumstances where skill in negotiation can and does help you. Players who are good at bargaining get more than those who merely bend over and take what is offered. Clearly negotiating isn't successful every time --- but even if it helps you 1 time in 12, you are quite a bit ahead by doing it.
In baseball a 250 hitter is pretty average and a 333 hitter is an All Star. The difference between these two numbers is one hit out of 12. In baseball, the 333 hitter earns quite a bit more than the 250 hitter. In gambling, the successful negotiator wins more than anyone who doesn't even try to bargain.
Everybody has a different style of bargaining. People's perception of how useful it is is often based on their own personal experience. Someone who would give up attempting to bargain is either really poor at it or doesn't understand how to get things in life.
Bob
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