--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
> Dave references a thread on vpFREE_Reno. The player whose handle is "What7do7you7want" did an excellent job debunking the myth weaving that others engaged in that thread.
>
Went back to VPFREERENO daughterboard thread w/subject:
"Peppermill- what to do with new tracking system?"
Message 4970 by tyroneceepacker is an example of real-time tracking:
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"Peppermill- what to do with new tracking system?
Posted By:
tyroneceepacker
Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:58 pm |
This is in regard to how the new system can track your play (ie playing advatage
machine) can cut your comp rate to near zero in real time.
Nightoftheiguna pointed this out to me in a post last year and it is true. I was playing on a large multiplier day and all was going well
had racked up a couple hundred dollars comps when after a few hours I was not receiving any all (or just pennies). I returned next month
started in and was receiving comps at a decent rate but was again cut to zero. Both times I am scoring tier points, that doesn't seem effected even when comps get stopped.
What i'm driving at is how can a person extend their time receiving comps? Mix in slots/tables/sportbooks before you start your normal play? Play on a spouse's card that's combined the account?
Thanks for any help!"
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Several shared similar experiences ie: One can watch comp rate go down as your gambling. In a couple of hours rate down by a factor of ten.
I don't think "what7" sayz iz it ain't happening but rather it's stupid for casino to do. One comment said Mlife uses such software.
My wife and I got no mailed by Atlantis earlier this year. We just booked September $230 RT tickets (Boston to Sacramento). Wife wants to stay at Atlantis and gamble. We have ~$200 to use up. I'm happy to stay but don't want to give back any of their money.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vp_wiz" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
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> Hedonist, I presume you meant to write "isn't being performed anywhere".
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> Okay ... so I don't know this with certainty. But, to date, there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that there's anything in place.
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> Dave references a thread on vpFREE_Reno. The player whose handle is "What7do7you7want" did an excellent job debunking the myth weaving that others engaged in that thread.
>
> Now, it's a no-brainer that such tracking is entirely feasible. But the economics alone suggest that such a solution isn't practical in any casino.
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> These days, you typically have half a dozen machines out of the entire floor with games that are "beatable", usually with just one or two game selections of several on the machine. And, most casinos are dealing with, at most, a couple dozen of players who skillfully eke out a decent advantage out of such machines (there are likely a lot more who likely fancy themselves as "advantage" players, but who in practice engage in practices that weaken themselves to a "breakeven" position, at best).
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> My point is that one must ask oneself just who would pay for a wholesale solution, entailing a revamp in machine accounting that introduces the complexity of data collection at every hand, vs one that merely records data at "coin in" and "coin out"?
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> Most casinos seem quite content in their means by which to deal with advantage players. The most expedient means is simply to reduce theos on the most attractive games (perhaps not the most efficient, but reasonably effective), and to keep a handle on players who aggressively take advantage of promotions.
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> - H.
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, hedonist144 <hedonist144@> wrote:
> >
> > Harry, I always appreciate your answers and comments. How do you know skill assessment is being performed anywhere?
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> > From: vp_wiz <harry.porter@>
> > To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:56 PM
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: stations policy on no mailing
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> >
> >
> > Â
> > Skill assessment of vp play in casinos isn't being performed. At LVH, you and many other players had their standing degraded simply because LVH sharply weakened the theos assigned to their best games.
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> > The host who suggested that skill was a factor was simply speaking out of her ass, other than as a suggestion that you weren't leaving at least 2% of your coin-in on the table.
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, David Feldman <feldman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Am I hallucinating, or isn't software tracking players' quality of play already in use? I remember the Las Vegas Hilton (before the change to LVH)
> > > was rumored to use it, and my host implied as much to me when she cut off my comps. I went from C-2 to "no thanks" in one visit, playing mostly the FPJOB 10-play
> > > (with minimal play of the positive dollar plays in the sports book) that is still on the floor. When I expressed surprise that I was being cut off for playing the
> > > same games I always played, and had lost on this trip and the previous trip, she replied: "You are playing the wrong games, and you are playing too well on
> > > those games." I do not play flawlessly, even on JOB.
> > >
> > > DF
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