[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 31 MAR 2013

 

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Barry Glazer <b.glazer@...> wrote:
>One of the skills in heads-up poker is identifying the style of your opponent, especially any identifiable aspects of his/her game that he/she is unaware of and therefore can't change at will. Since that's not in my skill set, I don't voluntarily play heads-up poker, although if I do well enough in a tournament to be among the last two players, I have no choice :) When that happens, I apply book knowledge and wish I had more experience.

"Heads up" can also occur in ring games, like blind versus blind or button versus blinds, or everyone leaves the table except two online. I would say that if you're heads up, you need to figure out if your opponent will fold, and if they will fold what are the conditions needed to get them to fold, because if they fold, you win. Notice so far that what your actual hand is doesn't matter, you only care about your own hand if you're going to showdown. In heads up play, a fair amount of the time neither side has a hand, well, unless you consider say jack high to be a hand, in which case you're probably a maniac. So there's a lot of bluffing going on, and that's the old game of chicken, or who's the greater maniac. If you can't bring yourself to bluff, you probably shouldn't play heads up, conversely if you love bluffing, or you are actually a maniac, heads up is your game.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Barry Glazer <b.glazer@...> wrote:
>
>
> In most poker rooms, there is a list to get a seat at a game, and Slansky could not have sat down at any game he wished, see several hands without a blind, and then leave and go to any other game he wished -- although, if several games have open seats and there is no waiting list, he might have been able to do it.
>
>
There's a little trick that some cardrooms pull when they have several games with the same limit. Instead of dealing 4 full games they deal 5 shorthanded games. With the dealers cranking out more hands per hour and 5 tables going the amount of money being raked goes way up. In a spot like this Sklansky would have no problem jumping from table to table.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

While (1) I think the original question about who has which blind was directed toward the video game / bot being discussed, and while (2) the information below is generally true, there are some additional variations available.

I've played in games where the big blind and small blind are the same -- e.g., 5-5. I've also played in games (I think in California) where the button was also a third blind, although I don't recall the amount relative to the other two (customary) blinds.

There are games where one can voluntarily "straddle" (post a blind that is larger than the mandatory blinds) which is expensive, often unwise (especially if only available as an option under the gun, ie out of position), and a little tricky to play, although there are a few legitimate reasons for using a straddle nevertheless.

In cash games, the need to "post" a blind when one sits down at a table may vary by casino and game. I've sat down in games and posted, or offered to wait for my big blind, and have been told I don't need to do so. I'm sure if this is abused (as per the Slansky practice that was described in another post), then the rule would quickly change.

In most poker rooms, there is a list to get a seat at a game, and Slansky could not have sat down at any game he wished, see several hands without a blind, and then leave and go to any other game he wished -- although, if several games have open seats and there is no waiting list, he might have been able to do it.

Finally, re: antes, while cash games usually do not use antes, higher stakes games may do so, and tournaments usually introduce antes as well after several levels of blinds (the blinds increase at intervals in tournaments). The reason for using blinds and antes is partly to assure that there is some "action" to get each hand started, otherwise, many players would never put any money in the pot unless they had very good hands and/or just wanted to gamble in what is ordinarily regarded as a game of skill.

Almost all of what I've written does not apply to heads-up cash games, and although I'm not peraonally familiar with the video hold'em being discussed, it sounds like it's not applicable to that game as well.

I will agree that heads-up hold'em is a challenging game to play well, and that it is likely pretty easy to write software that can play at an expert level, especially if, as I wrote earlier, the various styles of play can be incorportated into the software and randomly changed to keep the player guessing. One of the skills in heads-up poker is identifying the style of your opponent, especially any identifiable aspects of his/her game that he/she is unaware of and therefore can't change at will. Since that's not in my skill set, I don't voluntarily play heads-up poker, although if I do well enough in a tournament to be among the last two players, I have no choice :) When that happens, I apply book knowledge and wish I had more experience.

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> >
> > The button is the SB and button preflop.  He will
> act first preflop and last postflop.
> >
>
> Not exactly:
>
> The blinds are forced bets posted by players to the left of
> the dealer button in flop-style poker games. The number of
> blinds is usually two, but it can range from none to three.
>
> The small blind is placed by the player to the left of the
> dealer button and the big blind is then posted by the next
> player to the left. The one exception is when there are only
> two players (a "heads-up" game), when the player on the
> button is the small blind, and the other player is the big
> blind. (Both the player and the bet may be referred to as
> big or small blind.)
>
> After the cards are dealt, the player to the left of the big
> blind is the first to act during the first betting round. If
> all players call the big blind, the big blind is then given
> an extra opportunity to raise. This is known as a live
> blind. If the live blind checks, the betting round then
> ends.
>
> Generally, the "big blind" is equal to the minimum bet. The
> "small blind" is normally half the big blind. In cases where
> posting exactly half the big blind is impractical due to the
> big blind being some odd-valued denomination, the small
> blind is rounded down to the nearest practical value. For
> example, if the big blind in a live table game is $3 then
> the small blind will usually be $1 or $2 since most casinos
> do not distribute large quantities of $0.50 poker chips.
>
> The blinds exist because Omaha and Texas hold 'em are
> frequently played without antes, allowing a player to fold
> his hand without placing a bet. The blind bets introduce a
> regular cost to take part in the game, thus inducing a
> player to enter pots in an attempt to compensate for that
> expense.
>

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RE: [vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

<<You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money,
assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a
case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA
in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.>>

I'm not sure I understand the issue. Isn't the money online? There's no
transporting of cash necessary.

Cogno

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[vpFREE] South Point 2X Mondays

 

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bradr19" <briffel@...> wrote:
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> The blinds exist because Omaha and Texas hold 'em are frequently played without antes, allowing a player to fold his hand without placing a bet. The blind bets introduce a regular cost to take part in the game, thus inducing a player to enter pots in an attempt to compensate for that expense.
>
Texas Holdem is a fight for the blind money.

I used to play the 10-20 games at the Horseshoe and the Mirage. Of course you know that when you sit down in a game you either have to post a big blind or wait until the big blind gets to you....or you can wait until the blinds pass and post in 9th position, which most players do.

This rule of having to post or wait for the big blind was instituted because of a move by David Sklansky. Before the rule was instituted Sklansky would sit down in a game and look at cards until the big blind got to him. Then he would get up and look for an open seat at another table. When he found one he would again look at cards until the big blind got to him, then get up and look for a seat at another table, etc., etc. Sklansky never posted any blinds. LOL! When they got enough of his shenanigans they instituted the posting rule.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
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>
> You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money, assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.
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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Ed Miller <ed.miller@...> wrote:
> The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
> can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
> heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
> name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
> quite a lot of money.

You need to put a lot of thought into how you plan to move your money, assuming you're not just going to retire in Mexico. Nersesian just had a case where some gamblers had their roll and pocket cash confiscated by DEA in Atlanta, he talked about it on Dancer's radio show.

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[vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

 

There's a four raise cap, so a 20-40 game ($10 machine) has a max pot of $1000. Casinos can put machines into a special mode to get around the W2G lockup problem, but I don't know if that is available or not on this machine. IGT could fix it so that the machine doesn't steal the button on taxables, but maybe they like that feature. The button should just go back and forth anyway, sure certain people will play off any left button hands, but someone's gonna play that button anyway. My guess is that IGT considers the button stealing to be part of the hold/rake of the machine, player beware I guess. Initially they had a "feature" where it was hard to turn off the side bet, or the side bet would turn itself on, I imagine gaming said NEIN to that one. They should really make that side bet progressive, or better yet put in a bad beat type bet. Also as the guy on the radio show pointed out, you have to be careful with the size of your cashout ticket, and if you're playing for comp don't leave any comp balance on your card, the casinos will steal that, but most slot players already know about that. Oh and don't forget to put Nersesian's number on your cellphone, you know, just in case it gets ugly.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Ed Miller <ed.miller@...> wrote:
>
> I don't mean to suggest that the bot is not potentially vulnerable. Sure it
> is. Virtually any game in a casino is potentially beatable, and rake-free
> poker is a big flashing sign "come beat me."
>
> But poker seems to trick people into thinking that they know what they're
> doing when they really have no clue. I saw a little bit of that in this
> thread, hence my comments. If you think you know how to play heads-up limit
> hold'em and exploit the bot, but you haven't played even 100,000 hands of
> online heads-up limit hold'em, then I'd guess 999 out of 1000 you're
> kidding yourself.
>
> The problem I've heard with the bot is that if you play big enough that
> pots start getting to W-2G threshold, it steals the button on every W2-G
> and now it's very hard to beat. So there's a cap on how big you can play it.
>
> The other thing about it is that if you have the skillset to beat it, you
> can just rent a beachside condo in Mexico and play on Pokerstars to your
> heart's content and never have to worry about heat. If you are an unknown
> name, you'll get all the action you can handle on Stars until you've made
> quite a lot of money.
>
> Mickey. Online poker is returning to the USA, and we should have it here in
> Nevada by the end of the year. I think the games in Nevada will be a decent
> opportunity, but IMO it's an inevitability that it will come to California.
> When that happens, money will rain from the heavens for some length of
> time. I plan to drop everything and spend some quality time on the beach
> when that happens, and it seems like it might be an opportunity you might
> be interested in also. The willingness to spend the time to
> reverse-engineer what your opponents are doing is the #1 thing required to
> get good at poker, IMO. (That, plus the right mindset to interpret what
> you're seeing and find counter-strategies.)
>
> Oh, and it's hard to get people to play heads-up live in a casino, but I've
> managed a few times, and they basically just fold away their buy-in to you
> within about 15 minutes. Unfortunately, I've never had one rebuy, but maybe
> I'm not obnoxious enough.
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Mickey <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas V" <tringlomane@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Everyone should listen to what Ed Miller wrote. If you are not an
> > >expert at Heads-Up Limit Hold 'Em (and playing 6-max is NOT Heads-Up),
> > >the machine will crush you. It is simply a beast that will never quit.
> > >
> > >
> > I can't help myself. I'm always trying to think up ways to exploit a
> > situation. And I think we have an exploitable situation with this poker
> > bot. I'm not gonna do it myself. I'm pushing 60 years old, secluded in
> > Montana, and enjoy a very high hourly rate off the machines here. I just
> > mosey around everyday and pick the money off. But for you young guns out
> > there still trying to take on the world, this is what I would do if I were
> > you. It comes from an old Johnny Moss story from the fifties.
> >
> > One day a $400-$800 California Lowball game broke out at the Desert Inn.
> > They were putting lots of money on the table everyday. Guys were coming in
> > with cardboard boxes full of money. Moss wanted to tag the game. But he had
> > a problem. He had never played California Lowball before. What to do? What
> > to do? What to do?
> >
> > He flew to California and sat in with the Little Old Ladies of Gardena who
> > played $10-20 California Lowball everyday. They were reputed to be the
> > toughest Lowball players in the whole state. Moss sat in the games for a
> > week. He learned every move them little old ladies had. Then he flew back
> > to Vegas and the Desert Inn $400-$800 game. It took him three weeks to
> > break the game.
> >
> > I've never played head up limit holdem. But I've seen it many times,
> > usually at night, at the Horseshoe. Two guys would get into it and
> > challenge each other to a head up game. The house would deal the game with
> > a discounted rake, usually $2, because they were cranking out many more
> > hands per hour. And it was usually a $20-$40 game.
> >
> > If I were a young gun today I would use that poker bot to make me battle
> > tough at heads up play. I would play the cheapest game, the .50-$1 game. I
> > would reverse engineer every hand that bot played. The reason that bot wins
> > is because he is causing human beings to make incorrect decisions. I would
> > learn every move that bot has. Once I feel like I've learned enough, that
> > I'm tough enough, I'm gonna march right into the poker rooms of Las Vegas
> > and sit in the ring games. And when the timing is right, I'm gonna rope
> > people into heads up play.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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