RE: [vpFREE] Ultimate Play Poker

 

I was basing the number of possible combinations on what is shown at the
wizardofodds site.
Actually Shackleford just posted on this game and says at least 86 for 3
play, 183 for 5 play and 361 for 10 play.
The total actually varies slightly depending on the game. The multiplier sum
can be generated in more than one way.
Is the strategy always the same playing 3x, 2x, 1x vs 2x, 2x, 2x? If yes
then the number of strategies needed would be less!
Obviously some shortcuts are needed as no human will be able to analyze
every combination quick enough for practical use.

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bob Dancer
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:50 PM
To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Ultimate Play Poker

Howard
Stern wrote: I assume
you are talking about Ultimate X. This game is far and away the

toughest VP game to play even close to correct as even 3 play has 81
different strategy tables. (360 for ten play.)

In general
Howard is correct --- but the number of different strategies is off. For Ten
Play, each of the lines can have a multiplier of 1 (meaning no multiplier at
all) to 12 (often a full house, although it's a straight flush in at least
some Deuces Wild Games). The sum of the multipliers can vary between 10 and
120 --- which leaves a maximum of 111 different strategies. Sometimes one or
more of these numbers are impossible (such as when you have a 12 multiplier
and a 10 multiplier but no 11 multiplier, then you can't get to 119.) Also
some of the multiplier totals are VERY far-fetched --- such as a total of
118 can only be reached by getting 9 full houses and 1 flush. Your best
chance to do this would be to hold two flush cards --- say a suited KQ. It's
about 100-to-1 on any hand to get a flush from that position and about
900-to-1 to get a full house starting with two unpaired cards. Getting 9
full houses and 1 flush out of 10 tries is, in round numbers, impossible.

For Triple
Play, the maximum number of strategies needed is 27 and for Five Play the
maximum numbers of strategies needed is 51. Most players use approximations
and use one strategy for multiplier sums between 10 and 27. A second
strategy for multiplier sums between 28 and 64. Etc. It's not perfect ---
but it is a good compromise between what's possible and what's humanly
feasible.

Bob



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