Re: [vpFREE] Mickey Crimm

 

Requests like this always confused me a bit. Advantage players keep quiet
about advantage plays for obvious reasons. Nobody in their right mind would
broadcast a truly significant play to vpFREE or worse, write a book about
it! All that could possibly accomplish is a bunch of people slamming the
promotion/play until management shuts it down (if they didn't read it first
and beat the players to it!). Now the play's dead and people go on waiting
for the next handout while complaining about how tight-lipped the career
gamblers are.

I actually really enjoyed Mickey's detailing of how older slots worked and
how they beat them back in the day. I forgot to send a note personally
saying so, so I'll just say it here on the list. Thanks for sharing that,
Mickey, somebody did actually read them all. :) What's important to take
away from them, aside from their history and the entertainment value of the
anecdotes, is the method employed. These guys study the machines often.
They watch other people play, they figure out how to calculate paybacks (I
seem to recall one where the coin-in meter could be read by carefully
looking at the side of a reel and used to judge payout). It's hard work.
There are a lot of dead ends, gathering of data, and math done back in your
room to figure out if a play's any good or not, or in the case of a
slot/progressive where the break-even point is for you to step in and play.
A lot of useful information pertaining to this method is contained in those
posts, and I would definitely suggest reading them again. But if I'd done
all that work and some random Joe walks up to me or some guy on a mailing
list says hey, so what's the +EV play today, would I tell him? No way!

The real 'secret' of advantage play, such as one can be said to exist, is
that you have to do the work yourself and continue to do it all through
your gambling career. You have to get to know like-minded individuals, earn
trust and contribute, and even then you can't realistically expect someone
who's figured out a major +EV play to just tell his buddies. Some plays are
only going to be big enough for one person to hit.

Anyway, I've rambled enough. On-topic, I'd probably buy the book. I'm a
sucker for anecdotes and history where gambling's concerned.

-Sol

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:17 PM, tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

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> His stories are "OK", but I would be interested in a book about 'current'
> advantage slots ( not historical or burned out plays ). There
> is an AS subculture that keeps real quiet about whats happening and what
> to
> look for.
> my 2 cents...Tom
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