It's stupid to pull them.
I watched a whole set of banks with Dueces going off,
about 90% full, signs over the machines bragging of
the over 10% payback and only one person was
playing fast. (Two machines, too!)
I watched a handful of players and they were holding
one high card and crazy things like that.
(I could hit a royal!)
What the Casinos forget is that for every amateur
like me who studies the math, we have 10-20
friends who listen to us and tag along with us.
They never play properly no matter what we say,
and always dump whatever money they get.
By making it not worth my while to play there,
they won't get the bump of my circle doing the same.
I was thrown out of a casino once for counting cards
at a blackjack table.
My friends who I was with, had been brought up to
speed, so I thought, about what I was doing, not to
mention the need for disgression.
Well they blew my cover at the table so I was thrown out.
So I left and so did the six people with me.
Who had wandered all over the near empty Casino and
were playing slots and craps until they ran out of money
and came back to watch me play BJ.
DOH!
For every Bob Dancer they kick out, 200 or more
negative EV VP players leave.
--- On Sun, 3/4/12, tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
From: tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 2:00 PM
I'm not sure who is advising the casino's, but its not really good advice.
Instead of getting rid of Full pay deuces , lower the pay schedule. For
example, If a casino takes a fp deuces 5 coin schedule and cuts the 5K=70,
and WRF=120, folks would still play it ! Why , simply because at 100.27 EV,
its still the best game in town, and the casino makes an extra $50,000 cash,
for every 10M coin in thanks to the reduced pay schedule.
best...Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "dealt4oak" <dealt4oak@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:14 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Gambling With an Edge
> Ive noticed a lot of complaining from players about FPDW disappearing
> everywhere. I just want to let you folks know they will probably be
> extinct soon, not one slot director wants them, not because of the payback
> but, because of the ease in which people can play and be accurate. This is
> the reason you still see much more 10/7 DB. Even though its positive, most
> people cannot play it correctly. Bob is correct in saying that stations
> will get rid of the deuces soon but Im sure the DDB and DB will stay. All
> those 99.8% purple machines going in at the stations are most likely the
> replacement for many of the MG 100% machines. The 16/10 deuces(they go to
> dollar)are getting more play every time I go in there and that will be the
> death of the FPDW there. Sams Town Deuces are ridiculously slow so they
> pose no threat to their bottom line. Besides I dont see too many people
> playing proper strategy and that place doesn't seem to mind the people
> camping out at the machines with food and trash everywhere. Other places
> are not so forgiving about image. There are tons of articles preaching to
> everyone that knowing several games is the way to go. I think its time
> people actually tried this.
>
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>
>
> The machines never came back.
> I doubt they will. Since then, FPDW are gone from almost everywhere. The
> primary place they exist now is Stations/Fiesta ---
>
>
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