--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
>
> Being smart players here we can all agree with you.
> HOWEVER,
> that is not how casinos look at it. In poker everyone at the table, even Doyle Brunson, is playing at negative expectation games due to the rake.
> In progressive VP and Piggy Bank type games sharks like us will ONLY play them when they are over 100%. Casinos simply don't like to feed us. I have been told this by 2 mid level management types who are personal friends. Mostly it is just spite and there is not a thing any of us can do about it-unless we can buy a small casino of our own!
> Take my word for it-the days of Piggy Banking games and high meter progressives have gone the way of the Hacienda's prime rib buffet and they ain't comin' back either.
>
Aside from disagreeing with what you said about poker players playing at "negative expectation games", my point of this thread was asking if perhaps the slot companies could takeover the burden of influencing the casinos to alter their lineups. Look at all they are doing in terms of inventing new games? Ultimate X, Double Super Times Pay, etc., why not talk IGT and Ballys into doing it somehow? They're the geniuses, after all.
Which leads me to another question I was wondering recently. Does Konami, Aristocrat, and others like that make any video poker? If so, I have not seen it. And if not, then why not?
