[vpFREE] Re: Rules Revision - MEMBER PARTICIPATION

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tralfamidorgooglycrackers"
<tralfamidorgooglycrackers@...> wrote:
>
> > What's more, each member is expected to have memorized the
Database
> > inventory in each casino he/she frequents so deltas may be
> reported. Do
> > we have to have it memorized perfectly, or is penalty free
> memorization
> > sufficient?
> >
> > Bob Dancer
>
> Don't use "reductio ad absurdum", Bob. It's a cheapo tactic; one
not
> worthy of your towering intellect.
>
> Obviously, no one said that VpFree members are or were obligated to
> scour an entire casino every time they set foot in it. That's
stupid.
>
> There's a large difference between mandatory scouting, and the
> reporting of a change in VP inventory THAT THE PLAYER IS MANIFESTLY
> AWARE OF BECAUSE HE/SHE HAS VISITED THAT CASINO IN THE RECENT PAST
> AND IS THEREFORE AWARE OF THE CHANGE. To pretend that you don't
> comprehend the distinction between a comprehensive search of the
> casino and YOUR (in the case obviously being discussed) NOT
informing
> the VpFree community of this play that you found WHEN you found it
> (whatever your perfectly legitimate reasons, in your own mind, may
> have been) is
>
> disingenuous
> dishonest
> hypocritical
> self-serving
>
> and most of all---highly implausible. Bottom line: you didn't
report
> this play, because you wanted to "protect" it. You were and are
fully
> aware that concealing such info is contrary to VpFree policy, AS
WELL
> AS THE SPIRIT OF THIS BOARD.
>
> You do us no service, Bob. Perhaps you feel that you are not
> obligated to render any such service; that sharing information on
> good VP games is counterproductive; and that you are "entitled" to
> good plays that you unearth. Well, if YOU didn't have the
assistance
> of others yourself, you would be constantly scurrying from casino
to
> casino, seeking out these good plays. No one person can hope to
find
> out all the info out there on some 60+ casinos (and keep it
current).
>
> I'm sure you feel that you are 100.7% in the right here, and that
> nothing I say or might say can possibly have any influence on your
> thinking. You're entitled to that opinion, but please don't get
> snippy when someone points out that you are violating the spirit
and
> the letter of VpFree, which, after all, you joined voluntarily.
>

Not to either defend or slam Bob, but for this game why does this
seem to be such a big deal?

As Paladin pointed out in a separate post, there are probably only a
hand full of vpFree members who could even consider playing this
game. The fact that Bob didn't report the play really only affected
those few players, who most likely already new about it as well,
since it doesn't appear to be a casino mistake play.

No one seemed to be upset when mroejacks admitted that he didn't and
doesn't provide the locations of many $ FPDW machines (see posts
84866 and 84888) which is a game that it's a safe bet would be played
by many more vpFree members.

Bob has indicated in past posts that he feels that a double standard
is sometimes applied to him when it comes to vpFree, maybe in this
case he's right.

Bill

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