[vpFREE] Re: I got scammed on Ultimate X

 

Some "hustlers" call these con-artists "creators". I reported a pair at the Flamingo to security in late 2009 before I realized that people did this for a living. It was the third time I had seen this scam.

When I was last in Vegas in 2010, there ~10 main "creators" who worked the Ultimate X circuit. If you fill up a 25c/50c/$1 machine with high multipliers on every screen (say 4X average), that's 72 hands/denomination ($270 for 25c, $540 for 50c, $1,080 for $1...$1,890 for 1 machine). Very +ev con. Even if you can fill the machine with 2X avg, it's $630/full-machine.

I heard from friends in 2011 & 2012, that the heat on "wonging" Ultimate X had become very bad because the "creator" situation had gotten much worse due to the availability of good advantage Slots severely dropping over the past decade.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Rich Montgomery <richmontgomery138@...> wrote:
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> Thanks for the reply. I feel it&#x27;s unlikely that security would ban a player for this In their eyes someone simply said eh play over here. I do understand why the duped player would be upset. But he should e upset with himself as much as anything else

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[vpFREE] Re: El Cortez ATM Promotion

 

I hope it is there for my Sept. trip. Awesome deal.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:
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> Nope. You take your money out like an ATM! (Read the original post.) Then
> show your receipt to get the $50. I don't know of any bank paying THAT kind
> of interest!! :) I understand Rob saying people can get carried away but
> this is a good deal for smart gamblers.
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> I would still take the deal but I am assuming they take the 1000 and make
> you play thru it once. Is that a fair guess?
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> , "Scot
> Krause" <krauseinvegas@> wrote:
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> > But to get $50 in freeplay? You're not thinking very logically. I'll take
> > that deal any day of the week!
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> > I think so, when compared to zero fee when you get your cash from a bank
> > teller prior to going to a casino. And typically, players who use casino
> > ATM's once do so regularly--and multiple times per visit. The fees add up.
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> > $3.50 is an "outrageous fee?"
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