[vpFREE] Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 30 NOV 2013

 

Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas LVA BLOG - 30 NOV 2013

DECEMBER VEGAS PROMOTIONS

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[vpFREE] RE: RE: Re: Video Poker Hackers Cleared of Federal Charges

 

 I find the claim of accidental discovery entirely credible, given a machine experience I encountered several years ago ....


While cleaning the display of a  machine at Trump Plaza in AC, the machine abruptly jumped into setup mode.  Stunned, I panicked and quickly hit the Exit button.  However, curiosity got the better of me and on a later visit I set about seeing if I could recreate the glitch.


It turned out that if you rubbed the machine rapidly in one particular corner, setup mode was activated.  I found I had access to the various speed and sound settings.   Unfortunately, (or should I write "fortunately") it was necessary to key the machine to access the game set ups (seems my guardian angel didn't see fit to give me access to my personal $1 FPDW machine)


So, yes, I find it entirely credible someone might inadvertently skip out of play by hitting the game menu button, and subsequently, through application of a little healthy curiosity, stumble upon the balance of the applicable play sequence.




---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <quickquads@...> wrote:

I still don't believe it was "a fluke" that he discovered "Just playing" (quotes are from the article you linked).  These kinds of "back doors" have to be programed in by the software programmer or team.  Someone had to have told him how and what to exploit.  I still think that the person who wrote the code should be thoroughly investigated. 



---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <dds2124@...> wrote:

Here is a link (originally posted on the LVA message boards) to an article dated May 1, 2013:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/05/game-king/all/

Don the Dentist



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <quickquads@...> wrote:
>
> My theory is that these guys didn't figure out the combination of keystrokes necessary to trigger this "error" by themselves, they just don't look that bright. I believe that someone that worked on the software team planted that "back door" and gave it to a few people with the expectation of being given a percentage of the profit. They should be looking at the bank accounts of the entire software team to see who had a significant amount of extra income. That person or persons is guilty of a crime.
>
>
>
> ---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <bob.berger1@> wrote:
>
> I wonder how they discovered the software bug in the first place. As I remember it, the denomination had to be changed during the double-up feature. Any theories?
>
> Bob B.
>

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RE: RE: Re: [vpFREE] About the online gambling back East

 

I downloaded Dover Downs in Delaware and it appears to be the "888" software, with that "Jacks-or-Higher" game I mentioned in New Jersey.


Apparently this is the pay table.  1-2-3-4-6-9-20-40-800


So the quads are shorted, and the SF is shorted.  Lovely.


I'm guessing this is what one can expect to find on the "888" software in New Jersey, unless someone tells me different.  And as far as I can tell, this is the only VP game at Dover Downs Online in Delaware.


Legal online video poker in the United States has A LONG WAY TO GO.





---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <bobbartop@...> wrote:

But do you need to be in New Jersey to register an account?


I'm just interested to know what kind of video poker they have offered so far.  I did look as far as I can see without registering and several are using IGT software.  I can click "demo", and they all show 9-6 JoB, 8-5 BP, 9-7 DB, and 9-6 DDB.  Of course, that is just demo mode.  So I don't know for sure what real money is being played for, but it's probably the same as demo mode.


One software has something called "Jacks-or-Higher".  No telling what that is.



---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <mspevack@...> wrote:

From https://www.caesarscasino.com/en/support

Do I Have To Be In New Jersey To Play For Real Money?

Yes, currently to play at CaesarsCasino.com you need to physically be in
the state of New Jersey. You do not need to be a New Jersey resident
however you must be physically located in New Jersey.

How do you know that I'm in New Jersey?

Based on regulations by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement,
all online gaming operators are required to geo-locate all players on
CaesarsCasino.com to ensure that they are physically located in the
state of New Jersey.

On 11/30/2013 10:25 AM, bobbartop@... wrote
>
> Can anyone do a trip report on the online gambling going on in New
> Jersey and Delaware? I'd like to see it listed somewhere, maybe even
> vpfree2. I am in California, and I don't know if that prevents me
> from signing up and finding out for myself, as long as I don't try to
> play. I could try it, but thought I'd first ask if someone from one
> of those states could give a first-hand report.
>
> If so, what kind of video poker is offered, naturally. What
> paytables? Any progressives? Misc. details?
>
>

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Re: [vpFREE] RE: Re Bob Dancers recent column about hotel stays (breakfast)

 

I like Hampton inns too

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On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:10 PM, neilgrund@yahoo.com wrote:

 

I am pretty sure you will get something if not satisfied,even if it just a credit you can use for a future stay at a Hilton. For any future trips keep in mind that another Hilton chain, Hampton Inn always includes a hot breakfast. I actually prefer the Hampton Inn compared to the Garden Inn,even without the breakfast difference.

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[vpFREE] RE: Re Bob Dancers recent column about hotel stays (breakfast)

 

I've found that Hilton is one of the best hotel companies to deal with for customer service especially as a Hilton Honors member, let us know if you do get a refund.

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[vpFREE] RE: Re Bob Dancers recent column about hotel stays (breakfast)

 

I am pretty sure you will get something if not satisfied,even if it just a credit you can use for a future stay at a Hilton. For any future trips keep in mind that another Hilton chain, Hampton Inn always includes a hot breakfast. I actually prefer the Hampton Inn compared to the Garden Inn,even without the breakfast difference.

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[vpFREE] RE: Re: Video Poker Hackers Cleared of Federal Charges

 

I still don't believe it was "a fluke" that he discovered "Just playing" (quotes are from the article you linked).  These kinds of "back doors" have to be programed in by the software programmer or team.  Someone had to have told him how and what to exploit.  I still think that the person who wrote the code should be thoroughly investigated. 



---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <dds2124@...> wrote:

Here is a link (originally posted on the LVA message boards) to an article dated May 1, 2013:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/05/game-king/all/

Don the Dentist



--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <quickquads@...> wrote:
>
> My theory is that these guys didn't figure out the combination of keystrokes necessary to trigger this "error" by themselves, they just don't look that bright. I believe that someone that worked on the software team planted that "back door" and gave it to a few people with the expectation of being given a percentage of the profit. They should be looking at the bank accounts of the entire software team to see who had a significant amount of extra income. That person or persons is guilty of a crime.
>
>
>
> ---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <bob.berger1@> wrote:
>
> I wonder how they discovered the software bug in the first place. As I remember it, the denomination had to be changed during the double-up feature. Any theories?
>
> Bob B.
>

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[vpFREE] RE: Re Bob Dancers recent column about hotel stays (breakfast)

 

 They'll get more future business off of you by giving a few freebies now. It's smart business. The breakfast probably costs them little extra to add you guys to it and it may be creating a more loyal customer than just a 15% off coupon. They're penny foolish, but dollar wise.



---In vpfree@yahoogroups.com, <misscraps@...> wrote:


We recently stayed at a Hilton Garden Inn.  We thought breakfast was included in the price, since I normally choose hotels with this feature.  When we checked in we asked about the time for the free breakfast, and we're told there was a breakfast, but we didn't have it on our reservation and it would be about $10 pp extra.  I said I thought It was I included (I'd prepaid for the room).  The lady said, ok, here are coupons.  I said, I can dig out the receipt to check.  She said, don't bother, so I didn't. She handed us coupons.   They did in fact collect coupons at breakfast, which was very good too.  And later on when I went to website for HHonors, it turned out we had missed the part where you must buy a special "package" to get the breakfast.  So we did get a free breakfast by mistake. 

Note unlike Bob Dancer this was a mistake, not a deliberate attempt to deceive the hotel and get something we didn't deserve.

Interestingly, the hotel also has this 

"Our Promise.  We promise to do whatever it takes to ensure you're satisfied, or you don't pay. You can count on us. GUARANTEED™.  The Hilton Garden Inn Promise reflects our focus on hospitality and integrity.  We are committed to providing an excellent hotel experience for every guest, every time."

Which is one of the most general guarantees I've ever seen.  We had a couple of problems at the hotel, including no (or spotty) heat in the room and no maintenance man upon reporting it.  So I am now trying to get the "promised" refund.  We will see....(the front desk said they needed to contact the manager about the refund, and of course he wasn't at the hotel...does that qualify as a further dissatisfaction?)

Obviously someone like Bob who is trying to take advantage of every possible "freebie", even freebies he is isn't entitled to but is willing to knowingly try to get, should stay at hotels like this, because it is pretty easy to be dissatisfied over something, and this sort of guarantee seems strangely open ended. (assuming they honor it.....but it is a Hilton Honors property....)



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RE: RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: Bob Dancer's LVA 26 NOV 2013

 

If I remember correctly, Frank Kneeland felt he was winning too much so he tried to check into Gambler's Anonymous as a compulsive winning gambler but the group rejected him because they felt the correct diagnosis was compulsive liar as they had never heard of a winning gambler before. So Frank bought a stratovarius fiddle with his ill gotten gains and mastered the Transylvanian Lullaby to tame his inner beast.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwg6ONARquY




---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

007 asked: "What about being addicted to expected value and winning?"


It's called "Affluenza".




---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <007@...> wrote:

nightoftheiguana2000@... wrote:

> Having a hard "stop loss limit" is important anytime you're dealing with a possibly addictive behavior. If you can't set a stop loss limit and keep it, you should avoid that activity because you are likely to descend into addiction.

What about being addicted to expected value and winning?

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RE: Re: [vpFREE] RE: Bob Dancer's LVA 26 NOV 2013

 

007 asked: "What about being addicted to expected value and winning?"


It's called "Affluenza".




---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <007@...> wrote:

nightoftheiguana2000@... wrote:

> Having a hard "stop loss limit" is important anytime you're dealing with a possibly addictive behavior. If you can't set a stop loss limit and keep it, you should avoid that activity because you are likely to descend into addiction.

What about being addicted to expected value and winning?

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RE: Re: [vpFREE] About the online gambling back East

 

But do you need to be in New Jersey to register an account?


I'm just interested to know what kind of video poker they have offered so far.  I did look as far as I can see without registering and several are using IGT software.  I can click "demo", and they all show 9-6 JoB, 8-5 BP, 9-7 DB, and 9-6 DDB.  Of course, that is just demo mode.  So I don't know for sure what real money is being played for, but it's probably the same as demo mode.


One software has something called "Jacks-or-Higher".  No telling what that is.



---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <mspevack@...> wrote:

From https://www.caesarscasino.com/en/support

Do I Have To Be In New Jersey To Play For Real Money?

Yes, currently to play at CaesarsCasino.com you need to physically be in
the state of New Jersey. You do not need to be a New Jersey resident
however you must be physically located in New Jersey.

How do you know that I'm in New Jersey?

Based on regulations by the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement,
all online gaming operators are required to geo-locate all players on
CaesarsCasino.com to ensure that they are physically located in the
state of New Jersey.

On 11/30/2013 10:25 AM, bobbartop@... wrote
>
> Can anyone do a trip report on the online gambling going on in New
> Jersey and Delaware? I'd like to see it listed somewhere, maybe even
> vpfree2. I am in California, and I don't know if that prevents me
> from signing up and finding out for myself, as long as I don't try to
> play. I could try it, but thought I'd first ask if someone from one
> of those states could give a first-hand report.
>
> If so, what kind of video poker is offered, naturally. What
> paytables? Any progressives? Misc. details?
>
>

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[vpFREE] vpFREE] Re: Pick 'em Poker Risk of ruin calculation

 

<<I assume that a "common bankroll" means that each person contributes, for example, $2,000 to the "kitty" and then draws from that $4,000 fund as necessary, without regard to whether they have lost "their half", to finance their play, as long as there's money left in the fund."
 
This is the way we have always played – there is no "my money,"  only "our money."
 
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